A Psychologist, Jin Myeong, is an exorcist as well. With his apprentice, Ji Gwang, he faces a powerful being during the exorcism of Keum Joo. This powerful b. The Cave (2005) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. ‘The Cave’ by Austin Smith: ZYZZYVA No. 105, Winter 2015 Posted on December 14, 2015 (December 15, 2015) by editor The day that Aaron Pierce came out of a house we had never noticed before marked approximately a year since the Drew sisters had chosen to heave their attentions upon me.

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Plato (427–347 B.C.) was one of the leading philosophers in ancient Athens. His family included notable political leaders, and he served Athens, first, by a term in the military during Athens’s war against Sparta, and, second, through his intellectual and cultural contributions. Plato formulated his philosophy during a period of intense intellectual activity in ancient Athens.

He observed his teacher Socrates (470?–399 B.C.) critique the Sophists, a group of philosophers who taught the art of rhetoric and who claimed among their practitioners the philosopher Protagoras (480?–411 B.C.). The search for wisdom—not the mastery of the art of rhetorical argument should engage the mind, according to Socrates. Socrates’ philosophizing brought him into conflict with the political elites of Athens, who condemned him to death in 399 B.C. on charges of impiety and the corruption of youth.

Both Socrates and Plato lived through the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, in which Athens was finally defeated in 405 B.C. This war was chronicled by the great Athenian historian and theorist Thucydides (460?– 404? B.C.). In his history of the war, Thucydides records the famous funeral oration of the Athenian leader Pericles (495?–429 B.C.), delivered during the first year (434 B.C.) of the war. In this oration, Thucydides praises Athens as a city- state devoted to intellectual and cultural excellence as well as the realization of the common good of the entire citizenry.

Plato’s Academy taught students between the years 387? B.C. and A.D. 529. The Academy educated Aristotle (384–322 B.C.) and others in philosophy, law, mathematics, and logic. Plato’s writings would influence scholars such as Philo of Alexandria (15 B.C.?–A.D. 50?), who integrated Platonic teachings with Judaism; St. Augustine (A.D. 354–430), whose works on Christian political theory were influential in shaping ideas on secular–religious relations during the medieval period; and Averro¨es (A.D. 1126–1198), an influential Islamic writer whose works have contributed to legal, religious, and political theory.

Plato uses Socrates as a major character in many of his works. In The Republic, Plato presents an allegory that is useful in illustrating the difficulties and rewards of critical, philosophical analysis. This allegory, the allegory of the cave, may be read as a parable of political theory. Like all parables and allegories, the richness of its teachings lies not in the literal details of the story but rather in the larger philosophical questions implied by the details. Just as the parable of the boy who cried wolf, for example, is not really meant to teach the mechanics of sheep herding or wolf tracking, but instead is a compelling allegory because it teaches us about issues such as honesty and human needs, so it is with Plato’s allegory of the cave. It is not really about caves at all; it is about grappling with the questions we need to understand in order to become enlightened about the world.

In The Republic, Plato has the character of Socrates begin the allegory of the cave by telling us the allegory is supposed to illustrate the process of achieving understanding and enlightenment. This is why the allegory is so useful as a parable of political theorizing, because political theory is a history of the search for enlightenment on the normative questions of politics.

What is the human condition as it pertains to enlightenment or ignorance? In the allegory, Socrates contends that to begin answering this question, we should imagine ourselves living in an underground cave.

As residents of this cave, we are unaware of the most fundamental aspects of our environment. For example, we do not know we are actually inside a cave because we assume the surroundings we observe constitute the entire universe. We have no idea that above us is a ground level, a sky, a sun, because we automatically believe all that we see is all that is real. Our vision in this cave, Socrates explains, is very limited. The cave is dimly lit, and discerning images and shapes is difficult. However, because we have always lived in this cave, we do not feel it is dark and blurry; to us, everything looks normal.

Things are going on in this cave that we do not know about. We are shackled so we can only look forward. Having never experienced looking back- ward, we do not know this is even possible, and therefore we do not realize we are shackled. Behind us are three important objects: a fire casting light on the walls of the cave, a pathway leading out of the cave, and groups of people moving objects that cast shadows on the walls of the cave. We see only the shadows in front of us and have no clue these are merely shadows being created by moving objects. Having no reason to think otherwise, we consider the shadows real.

Thus, our lives consist of watching shadows. We are mesmerized by our world, not knowing its vacuous nature. We are entertained, informed, and reassured by the mundane and the sublime in our reality, not knowing both are merely artificial constructs. We are so certain that we know reality—after all, we are empirically observing it—that our complacency has become part of our nature. All is right with the world, we feel.

Then something shatters life in the cave: A person stands and looks around. On making these unprecedented movements and looking into these new directions, the person feels intense discomfort. Standing up, turning around, seeing the fire—all these bold moves strain muscles and eyes unaccustomed to such ‘‘unnatural’’ things. The individual experiences confusion, as his or her vision and equilibrium have to adjust to the newness of standing and seeing light. The individual, Socrates continues, immediately considers rejecting everything he or she sees: It all looks unfamiliar, unreal, untrue, unnatural, wrong. It makes the individual feel very uncomfortable. The individual may want desperately to turn away from all these new things, but what if he or she does not? What if the individual moves up the cave’s pathway and above ground? Here the individual encounters more shocks and becomes even more frightened and miserable because the light of the sun is completely overwhelming to someone who has always lived in a cave. The individual is blind and lost.

Yet slowly things begin to change. The eyes adjust, and the individual begins to see not only the sun but also the land, the sky, the world. The individual now realizes there is an entire universe beyond the underground cave. The cave is not the world, living in shackles is not living freely, watching shadows play along a wall is not knowledge of what is real—the former prisoner now knows all these things.
The enlightened individual begins to feel an urgent need to share this wonderful knowledge with the others in the cave.

Thus, in the allegory, the individual goes back down the pathway, reenters the cave, and starts revealing to the others that there is a life above ground. He or she tells the cave dwellers that they are in shackles, looking backward is possible, standing up and moving around is possible, and those shadows they have been watching all their lives (and which their parents watched before them) are just images created by movements they have never seen.

How do you think the prisoners respond to these claims? In the allegory, the prisoners decide the individual is mad, dangerous, or both. They assume the individual’s vision has been ruined. The individual has lost touch with reality if he or she thinks looking backward is ‘‘normal.’’ The individual is talking nonsense, the cave dwellers conclude. If the individual persists in trying to liberate the others, Socrates is very clear on what will happen: The individual will be killed by the cave dwellers.

All of us relive the journey of the individual in Plato’s allegory, perhaps, when we think critically about politics. Critical thinking is difficult and some- times unsettling, and it often produces conclusions at odds with the status quo of our ‘‘caves.’’ Thinking critically about the purposes of the state may lead us to believe that the accepted wisdom of our society is no more real than a shadow on a wall. As a result, political theory has produced ideas that are often controversial and sometimes elicit strong opposition. Socrates himself was considered dangerous and was condemned to death by Athens.

Inspiration[edit]

I believe it is logical to assume that the story was inspired from the Legend of Dracula from the following points:1) The cave is in Romania, which is where Transylvania is.2)Dracula-or vampires in general-turn from the sign of the crucifix. It is interpreted here as the cave's lying underneath a church, i.e. evil is being held down by the power of God. 3)These creatures are like bats, or vampires; they fly, see better in the darkness, and were seen walking upside down. 4)Finally, these creatures when they bite someone, they infect him/her into one of their own kind, just like a vampire who when bites someone, changes him/her into a vampire also, under certain conditions that vary from one novelist to another.

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There may be something to what you say; however, you may also have it backwards. Romania is well known as a country with hundreds of caves, and bats are very fond of living in caves. The prevalence of bats in Romania is probably why bats and vampires and Dracula grew to be so strongly associated together. Finally, the Templars did in fact found many churches in Romania, as well as all over Europe.

Rpresser 05:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

In Germany, it was stated by the promoters that it is based on ACTUAL events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.62.120.215 (talk) 07:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup tag[edit]

I added the cleanup tag because the synopsis is waaaaaaaaay too detailed, but - how I don't really understand - also very difficult to follow.--Anchoress 11:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Addendum - I don't think a WP movie plot synopsis has to be this long, but for comparison, Romy and Michele's High School Reunion is an example of an entry that is very readable and not overburdened with minutae.--Anchoress 12:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup tag removed after long, detailed synopsis removed.--Anchoress 14:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup tag replaced when long summary replaced. Anchoress 05:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Why no revert, Anchoress? I think it may be called for, even though I generally support information no matter the mess.mordicai. 04:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeahhhh... well, I've been thinking of posting to the RfC about it. To be honest, I supported the bold editor's removal of the summary, especially when it became obvious how satisfactorily the short synopsis sufficed, but I just don't feel good about a bunch of editors ganging up on one, especially since if we get our way, someone's work is summarily removed. I guess I'm just not confident enough with the red pen. But... I'll mull it. What it comes down to I think is not wanting to hurt feelings or seem like a bully, but since the action is so appropriate to the problem, they're not good reasons. Anchoress 04:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

OK you convinced me. See below. Anchoress 04:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Detailed plot description[edit]

After consideration (see above section) re-removed detailed plot description per opinions of three editors. Editor who re-inserted it suggests it should be improved rather than deleted, but it really, really needs a lot of work and little has been forthcoming during the time the cleanup tag has been applied.

Below is the text of the detailed synopsis; if anyone wants to work on it and re-insert it (hopefully in a much tightened and clearer form) I'm sure the opposing editors would approve.

Details

Before the spelunkers enter the cave, they read about a battle between demons and knights within the cave that was inscripted on a mosaic. Regardless, they still enter the cave, and quickly drop down via ropes. They set up a temporary base, and Jack sends Briggs as lead scout, angering Tyler, who thinks of himself as 'the best scout'. Briggs begins to swim down a flooded cave formation, while keeping contact with home base through a camera located on his headgear. As he descends deeper the group loses contact with him, and Jack is prepared to send Tyler down to look for him. While Tyler readies for the search, the laptop screen flashes with life, and we see Briggs' head talking amid a cloud of darkness. He says he found the perfect place for their advance base, but is subsequently attacked by what he calls a 'giant rodent or rat'. The screen then begins to flash white noise.

The group begins to panick. They all put on rebreathers and follow the cable to Strobe's location. Jack and Tyler then find advance base, a base that is oddly missing Briggs. As they scream for out his name, Briggs pops out at a distant grotto, telling them to come here. They find a pair of worn out boots. Someone was here before them.

Cut back to the underwater explorers. Top finds the break in their connection; something had chewed the cable in two. Strobe on the other hand begins to descend a narrow crevice, eager to explore this new location. However, as he goes down a creature attacks him out of nowhere, and drags him through a small aperture. As he's sucked in his rebreather gets smashed on some rocks, and his lithium reacts with his oxygen tank, causing the rebreather to explode in a fury of air bubbles. The explosion essentially destroys the surrounding cave system, causing stalgmites and stalactites to come crashing down. Briggs is sent plummeting to advance base, where a flume of water had just shot up from the surface. Jack and Top go back in the water, only to see a mass of rubble blocking the path - the path they just came in from. As they try to remove some of the rocks to find Strobe, a large column slowly falls down, crushing the pile of rocks just as Jack and Top swim back. The last we see is a swaying Strobe's hand.

The group is now stuck in Titan's Hall, a name given to their current location by Dr. Nicolai. Jack promptly states, 'We won't be missed for 12 days, and that's just about when our supplies run out.' So Jack tells Top to climb a terraneous cliff with him, hoping that the hole above would be their salvation. As they climb, Tyler breaks into a small scuffle with Briggs, who were both agitated that 'he left his partner'. Charlie breaks them up, nonchalantly saying 'is this how you grieve over a friend's death?' Flash back to the the two mountaineers. The two have made it into the hole, and Jack tries to get through a narrow sledge of rock to see if there would be an opening on the other side. With Top literally at his heels, Jack sees a flock of scorpions and screams at Top to back up. Top, in a belligerent manner, yells 'you want me to back up?' Jack is then sucked into the hole by an unknown creature, which prompts Top to do nothing but yell his name repeatedly. Jack manages to wound the creature by flaying it with his machete, and Top and he then leave the section, and go back to advance base, saying that Jack need's medical attention. Kathyrn sees a giant claw latched onto his back in amazement, and Top comes with some antibiotics just as the claw unwraps itself from Jacks wounded shoulder. Jack, clearly angry, groans, 'how many expeditions have you been on before?' to which the reply is 'enough'.

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Kathyrn and Nicolai then decide to run some analysis on the claw. The biologist states that the claw is almost amphibious, with the exception of the hair follicles on it. She notices that the severed tendons also act like a parasital microbe she found before, and both she and Nicolai agree that this is something confined to this cave. Jack then demands that they have to leave this place as swift as possible; Nicolai demands that the group should wait for backup. They ignore him and explore the cave system around them, and Jack finds a river resembling a cache of rapids. He tells everyone to ride it down, saying that it should lead them out somewhere. They all enter one by one. Nicolai, on his way down, crashes into a multitude of rocks, essentially crippling him. Tyler and Kathryn are seperated- something had caught onto the biologist's harness. Tyler is swept way under by the rapids, and is neatly displaced by a giant waterfall. He plops down, only to be followed by Charlie and Kathryn. Jack messages him via earphones, and he lights a flare to give away his location. As the three make it to the others, Nicolai is pelted down, into utter complete darkness. He can hear the others, but can't see them, so Jack decides to swim after him. Meanwhile, Charlie and Top complain that something is in the water- Tyler believes it to be the eel that they had seen before. As Jack swims to the scientist, Nicolai is dragged down by the creature, and the last glimpse Jack has of him is a ghost-like figure silhoutted by his lantern.

The group finds a ledge, leading to another complex system of stone mazes. Top puts down some gas lighters, stating that if the creatures come the group should use them. Jack and Tyler see there is another gaping quite some distance away, and say they're going to climb up there. As they ready up their gear, Charlie disobeys orders and begins trekking up the pass. Jack and Tyler try catching up to her, but to their dismay, she is too fast for them. Charlie finally reaches the hole in the sky, and as she looks in she says she feels a draft, denoting that this may be a way out. However, one of the creatures flies out and attacks her, causing her to topple back down quite a ways. Luckily, her safety locks catch her in place, and she slowly spins around midair. As she regains consciousness, she sees a creature to her side, and she tries to run to another cliff parallel to the one she's on. As she narrowly misses getting a hold on the other side, she runs towards the creature with the lighter in her hand. In a burst of flames she ignites the creature which falls down the wall, and she sprints and jumps to the other side. As she puts another lock in place, a creature flies towards her. Just as she screams, 'they can freakin' fly.' The creature slams into her, and with her pocket knife she slashes the creature's wings. The monster flies off. We then see Jack carrying Charlie, evidently dead, in his hands. They put a blanket over her.

Jack, Tyler, Top, Alex, Briggs and Katherine are left. Katherine walks over and notices that Jack's eyes have changed along with Jack's skin. 'I finally understand everything now' Katherine says. She says that because of the creature scratching Jack, Jack is now infected. He will become one of the creatures soon. She adds that the people from 30 years ago are the creatures. Some virus got into their system, which caused them to mutate into creatures. Lastly, she adds that the creatures that are hunting them now, are the people from 30 years ago.

Tyler says that he doesn't believe Katherine. This leads everyone to fight and argue. Briggs says he can lead the group since Jack will mutate into one of these creatures shortly. Jack says that he is still in control. The group decides to split up and go their own separate ways. Briggs leads Katherine and Alex, while Jack, Tyler and Top go off on there on.

Moments later, we go to Top, Tyler and Jack. They come across a large room with lava pits and fire. Tyler says that they shouldn't have split up. Tyler separates from Top and Jack and searches for Briggs' group. In the mean time, we cut to Briggs leading his group. They travel through some tunnels. Briggs thinks he sees an exit. One of the creatures comes flying out and attacks the group. Briggs fights it off while Katherine and Alex run for their lives. Alex and Katherine get separated. Tyler hears yelling, indicating he is close to finding Briggs. Tyler comes across Briggs' bloody body pushed up against some spikes on the ceiling. Briggs tells Tyler to find Katherine and Alex. Briggs dies.

After a while Tyler finally finds Katherine. The creature chases the two of them. They dive underwater and swim to dry land. Cut back to Top and Jack. They are climbing down some ice rocks. Top slips, and breaks his leg. Jack goes to help him. Tyler and Katherine meet up with Top and Jack. Alex also shows up. A creature shows up. Jack says that they can blow up their air tanks and hopefully kill the creatures for good. One of the creatures come flying down and takes one of the air tanks. It takes the air tanks and blows itself up causing a huge explosion. The walls start to crumble. Some spikes fall from the rocks and go into Alex pinning him to the ground.

One of the creatures comes flying down and kills Alex. Right here you see a black tattoo on the creature's arm that is exactly the same as one of the explorers from 30 years ago had in the earlier flashback. This indicates that Katherine's assumption about the creatures being human was correct. A creature that is flying straight towards them corners Tyler, Top and Katherine. Jack then climbs up a rock to get the last air tank that was taken by one of the creatures. Next, Jack sets off his air tank and this causes a huge explosion. Finally, Jack jumps off of the rock and collides with the flying creature to try and kill it.

Top, Katherine and Tyler dive underwater to avoid the explosion. The three swim through an underwater tunnel and finally make it out the cave. The screen fades out.

We come back and we see Top, Katherine and Tyler sitting in a café. Tyler asks Katherine if there was anyway Jack could have survived the explosion in the cave right before they escaped. Katherine says no. A taxi comes for Top and he says his goodbyes. Katherine looks over at Tyler and takes her sunglasses off. We see that Katherine's eyes are yellow and disfigured. She is infected. 'At first I thought the virus could only live in a cave environment. I am not so sure anymore. I think it wants to get out'. Katherine gets up and makes a run for it. Tyler chases after, but loses sight of her.

--Anchoress 04:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Film comparison[edit]

OK, the following certainly doesn't belong in the article, nor does it belong on a Talk page about the article, but I just had to get this out. I am mystified by the preference of all critics for The Descent over The Cave. The Descent didn't even use real caves in its sets! The Cave has beautiful, real sets, great photography; it has caves and diving; it has very realistic-seeming caving technology. It's a great nerd movie. All The Descent has for me is boredom. (Oh yeah, The Cavern, the third caving movie in the set, truly did suck.) Rpresser 05:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Simple - The Descent is a much better film. Who cares which was filmed in actual caves? In the end it comes down to story and thats all that really matters. Now, can someone please delete this entire exchange, as Wiki is not a bulletine board? (Go to IMDB for that) RoyBatty42 07:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Mate, The Cave did have a beautiful set, but that was by far the best thing about it. Critics don't like The Descent for it's set, they liked it for the claustrophobic atmosphere, strong acting, realistic characterization, great direction, terrifying monsters, and subtle writing. Which were all things I found lacking in The Cave.

To the extent that 3 fairly big-budget films came out within months of each other, all having roughly similar plots, a discussion of their similarities would be relevant in the main article. Whether that discussion should take the form of a point-by-point comparison of sets, scripts, or even critical reviews, might be left up to readers (and revisers). As for assertions that 'in the end it comes down to story...,' they presuppose a fairly narrow view of what readers might come to Wiki for. If one were really confident that, for example, it doesn't matter whether a cave film is shot in an actual cave, one might put that stance into the Wiki article devoted to the analysis of films. It seems to be more a position about the role of props and settings than one that really informs readers about The Cave (or any other movie). C d h (talk) 05:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

The 'it was shot in an actual cave' thing is poor proof of anything. What does it help to have been shot in an actual cave, if it sucks as a movie? The storyline is convulted, and find any caver, and they'll tell you The Descent is far more believable as a caving movie. Hell, the first few minutes of the movie feature a paleobiologist who fails to recognise the Olm as the biggest creature so far discovered to live underearth, and just laughs amicably at a far bigger 'Cave Mole' - a creature she, as a paleobiologist should be absolutely enthralled with. But hey, at least she looks good, ey. So much for a geek's (oops, a nerd's) response to this dreck of a movie. And personally, the one thing that bothered me most about this movie is the America, Fuck Yeah attitude that it drips gratiously with. TomorrowTime (talk) 18:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't normally get involved in discussions like this, and certainly this discussion doesn't belong here, but I saw this film on TV (in HD with surround sound) last night, and thoroughly enjoyed it. The point is that it is BEAUTIFULLY SHOT (with atmospheric and frighteningly realistic sound) 'in an actual cave'. There is more to being a good film than characterisation; indeed there is no reason why a film with no characterisation should not be excellent in its own way. I guess the point is that simply quoting Rotten Tomatoes may give a misleading and biased picture of the film that is not appropriate for Wiki either, although I offer no solution other than leaving these comments here. Keithbowden (talk) 22:17, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Filming locations[edit]

I have removed the sentence that claims that The Cave was filmed in an actual cave, as the information I have been able to source (including information from divers involved with the production), is that the cave scenes were filmed on a set in Romania. If anyone knows any different, please edit the article accordingly.--Soulparadox (talk) 18:10, 9 September 2012 (UTC)